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Poster: HighNRGOne Date: Nov 25, 2005 4:24pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Greedful Dead

They win.

This post was modified by HighNRGOne on 2005-11-26 00:24:21

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Poster: SavoyTruffle Date: Nov 24, 2005 4:11am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Greedful Dead

im not sure how old this news is but it must be pretty recent. jimmy herring just quit the phil and friends tour. yet another reason not to go.

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Poster: matthe Date: Nov 24, 2005 4:12am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Greedful Dead

As far as I saw today, all the Phil&Friends Shows are still available in the archive.
All you angry tapers (users), I think you should come down a little bit. The band owes us nothing! Instead, we owe them a lot for all the great music they gave us (of course for their living - so what?). And we should all be grateful for that treasure of so many sbd's, that we had access to for quite some time. We can trade the old way and get in contact with other heads again.
Peace
matthe (from Germany)

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Poster: laptaper Date: Nov 24, 2005 6:45am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Greedful Dead

>During Ripple, Jerry adds a line that always stuck with me >(echoing in my head whenever I heard other >renditions)...."Let there be songs to fill the air.....THAT'S >OWED US".

If you're referring to the version on Reckoning (AKA For the Faithful), it's Bobby saying "That's Otis", meaning his dog who'd escaped one of the roadies and wandered on stage. We hear what we want to.

Talk about a Rorschack test.

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Poster: HighNRGOne Date: Nov 25, 2005 4:24pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Greedful Dead

They win.

This post was modified by HighNRGOne on 2005-11-26 00:24:51

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Poster: petesake Date: Nov 24, 2005 8:21am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Greedful Dead/OTIS

that's correct.."that's Otis"...referring to a dog..
BUT...isn't "Otis" greek for " greed" ?????

It's amazing how many people turn from happy content
freeloaders, to angry finger-flipping madmen
when something becomes no longer free....lighten up,
the song ain't over yet...wait and see how it ends...

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Poster: HighNRGOne Date: Nov 25, 2005 4:25pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Greedful Dead/OTIS

They win.

This post was modified by HighNRGOne on 2005-11-26 00:25:16

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Poster: petesake Date: Nov 24, 2005 9:49am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Greedful Dead/OTIS

I've downloaded from this site...for free...I'm a free loader...at the moment I can't download anymore...OK.
this doesn't make me want to put a hex on anyone...I've been listening for over 35 years...the only thing constant
is change. if this road's closed, I'll take that road...
you put yourself out in front like a madman, raging against
the unknown reasons of someone, and you call everyone
who says wait and see a bleeding heart...get over it,
get on with it.

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Poster: 72Stu Date: Nov 24, 2005 8:56am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: The Greedful Dead/OTIS

I believe you're correct concerning the word "otis", since the root meaning of the word translates as "everything" or "whatever".

I also agree with your sentiments regarding the way so many people are responding to all of this. It would be ironic, were it not so ugly, that today is Thanksgiving, and a band named the GRATEFUL Dead--who have provided so much wonderful music for so long--are being villified by people who have been riding the LMA gravy train.

I really lament the recent turn of events here on the archive, and I do hope that some mid-ground is reached soon, but where is the gratitude from people who have had so much brilliant music for free for so long; tell me what other successful band has allowed so much material to be downloaded from this site. Of all the major bands of their generation, the Dead are the only ones who have allowed their stuff to be traded to this extent--so I find it distasteful for people to resort to such horrible name-calling.

Also, to the people who brag about how much they've spent on things over the years: when you but a ticket to a show, you get a seat to THAT SHOW; not the tour, not the carreer. When you buy an album, you have the right to that album--not a group's entire catalog.

Maybe now that there's a freeze on this archive's availability of Dead shows, people will be less spoiled by the easy availability of this singular material.

And friends, if the Dead were greedy money-mongerers, they never would have produced the type of material they did; they would have produced hits--not mindmelt. They took chances, gave their all for decades, and deserve some renumeration for their brilliant efforts. Greed isn't characterized by wanting money for your labors; it's evidenced by wanting more than you've earned--or in the case of the archive cry-babies, by wanting EVERYTHING for NOTHING. THAT is what typifies greed.

This said, I do emplore The Boys to rethink this complete withdrawal from the archive. I think that their interests would be best served by allowing a healthy amount of stuff to be available though this site for a while longer yet; it keeps their work available to the uninitiated, and keeps alive the spirit of trading that's been so special for so long. I call them to pay attention to how many customer reviews in their download series refference the archive--and mention how much better the official release is! People who enjoy the archive will still pay for official downloads of higher quality, (although the cost of the downloads are excessive, really--my one complaint against them). The archive can still be used by the Dead to promote visibility, and perpetuate this unique legacy.

To me, the best all-around result would be for the Dead to pull, months or a year in advance, any quality SBDs they plan to release officially, but to otherwise leave as much stuff available on this site as possible. That way, there's plenty enough for all to enjoy.

But if you do enjoy this music, then how about rewarding the guys (and gals) who've provided it by paying for a bit of it too. They've given us alot--let's give them some slack.

LET'S BE GRATEFUL TO THE DEAD!!!
Happy Thanksgiving!